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Fires of Beltane is a casual guild with a bit of the Celtic/Pagan flavor. We focus on helping each other level and reach personal goals within the game as well as enjoying the laughter and company of friends. All levels and classes of players are welcome.
 
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Argonxander

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PostSubject: Needing Another Idea   Needing Another Idea EmptyThu Oct 29, 2009 12:32 pm



Here of late I have spent time thinking of ways to get others involved in this. So I would like to invite everyone to give me a subject or Idea i can work with. Being everyone im sure has a crazy life like i do. This is going to take some thought in it. But anything will work.. if you have a Ghost Story or a Loved one you would like to talk about please feel free to put it in. This forum is for everyone.

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PostSubject: Here's One   Needing Another Idea EmptyFri Oct 30, 2009 9:51 pm

Hre we start:

Halloween!

Didn't this used to be some kinda pagan festival or summat?
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PostSubject: Re: Needing Another Idea   Needing Another Idea EmptySun Nov 01, 2009 8:51 am

Halloween Myths

1) The pumpkin God, Samhain ( pronounced Sam’hane or SOW-en) DOES NOT exist.

2) Pagans DO NOT sacrifice babies or animals on Halloween. The Wiccan Rede states "Do what thou wilst, but harm none."

3) Pagans DO NOT worship the Devil or Satan on Halloween.

4) PAGANS ARE NOT SATANISTS.

These myths have been perpetuated by people who have seen too many horror movies and the Christian idea of horrific and mythical forms of Satanism.


Origins of Samhain or Halloween

According to Monroe, the Celts were a nation of people united by a common culture. "The term Celtic refers to a culture, and not a specific country or nationality" (Monroe 5). The Celts were a feirce warrior people whose domination once stretched from Ireland to Greece at their height around the third century BC (Severy 588).

The ancient Celtic society was highly structured in that everyone knew their place. To break the strain, Samhain was celebrated by the Celts from October 31 to November 2 as days of no time when chaos ruled. "People did crazy things, men dressed as women, and women as men. Farmers’ gates were unhinged and left in ditches, peoples’ horses were moved to different fields, and children would knock on neighbors’ doors for food and treats in a way that we still find today . . . in the custom of trick-or-treating on Halloween" (O.B.O.D.).

The Druids however celebrated differently. "Behind this apparent lunacy, lay a deeper meaning. The Druids knew that these three days" were the time when "the veil between this world and the World of the Ancestors was drawn aside ... and journeys could be made to the ‘other side’. The Druid rites, therefore, were concerned with making contact with the spirits of the departed, who were seen as sources of guidance and inspiration." The Ovates officiated at these rites, because they were skilled in divination and spiritual travel.

Ovate was the second step to becoming a Druid. Ovates "were responsible for understanding the mysteries of death and rebirth . . . for divinaning the future" and for "conversing with the ancestors" (O.B.O.D.). The Druids believed that time was cyclical and not linear. Therefore, the Ovate was also trained in spiritual time travel. They viewed the realm of the ancestors not as a realm of the dead, but as the repository of tribal wisdom where the ancestor awaited reincarnation. The O.B.O.D. quotes Ceasar from the de Bello Gallico, "The cardinal doctrine which they seek to teach is that souls do not die, but after death pass from one to another..." [Reincarnation] This view of death is a less fearful image then simply not existing anymore. And by observing natures cycles of birth, death, and rebirth the modern ovate can apply natural law towards the healing of the human body and psyche.


Samhain Today

Today Pagans see Samhain as a time to honor the dead, not as the dead, but as the living spirits of loved ones and as guardians who hold the wisdom of mankind. It is a celebration of the afterlife where we do not die but rest and continue to learn and prepare for our next incarnation.
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PostSubject: Samhain   Needing Another Idea EmptySun Nov 01, 2009 7:19 pm



Ahh darn it Charlie Brown there is NO great pumpkin!! hehe

On a more serious note, this was great information, thanks for sharing will us Rowanne.

I've also read that christians used the holiday to celebrate all Saints Day (or all Hallow's Eve)once they began to turn pagan holidays to their own in an effort to crush the pagan religion and believers or to merge their believes into the christian ones (the old if yu can't beat em join...or make em join yu mentality that Rome was known for). This way they could allow the celebrations to continue without "losing face" or seeming to give in to the pagans. I believe they did this with several pagan holidays like christmas but we'll save that history for december Smile

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PostSubject: New Thoughts for Everyone to Think about. While we are this subjuct   Needing Another Idea EmptyTue Nov 03, 2009 11:28 am



According to an ancient Christian tradition, Christ died on MAR-23 and resurrected on MAR-25. These dates agree precisely with the death and resurrection of Attis

Early Christians were naked when they were baptized. After immersion, they then put on white clothing and a crown. They carried a candle and walked in a procession to a basilica. Followers of Mithra were also baptized naked, put on white clothing and a crown, and walked in a procession to the temple. However, they carried torches.


At Pentecost, the followers of Jesus were recorded as speaking in tongues. At Trophonius and Delos, the Pagan priestesses also spoke in tongues: They appeared to speak in such a way that each person present heard her words in the observer's own language.

An inscription to Mithras reads: "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation.

" 1 In John 6:53-54, Jesus is said to have repeated this theme: "...Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

There were many additional points of similarity between Mithraism and Christianity.
2 St. Augustine even declared that the priests of Mithraism worshiped the same God as he did:

Followers of both religions celebrated a ritual meal involving bread. It was called a missa in Latin or mass in English.
Both the Catholic church and Mithraism had a total of seven sacraments.

Epiphany, JAN-6, was originally the festival in which the followers of Mithra celebrated the visit of the Magi to their newborn god-man. The Christian Church took it over in the 9th century.
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PostSubject: For Our Admin   Needing Another Idea EmptyThu Nov 05, 2009 7:23 pm



If i post anything you feel is to far off please by all means feel free to delete it. then just send me a message letting me know what happen. By all means i would never want to endanger anyone with things i Post


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